Replacement tuners for an old Excalibur Supra? (non-locking to locking)

yuri1973 · 14 Oct 2016 12:16

Hello all,

I'm wishing to replace the original non-locking tuners on my 2004 Supra for a locking model. The ones it has now are 6 in-line, non locking, and with a screw to secure it to the headstock (see photo). Are those originals made by Schaller? Gotoh? .... other?

My main question is if I can find a drop-in replacement but with locking mechanism of the usual brands, without altering at all the headstock (i.e. not drilling any additional holes for a screw or for a pin, etc..).

Any hints? Which make/model has a drop-in replacement?

Thanks in advance!

Jorge

p.s. this is a fixed-bridge (hardtail) Supra

yuri1973 · 25 Oct 2016 19:24

anyone any idea?

It looks like Gotoh SG-360 may be a drop-in replacement ... ?? Schaller M6 mini ??

yuri1973 · 27 Oct 2016 09:25

help please ...

yuri1973 · 28 Oct 2016 10:23

help still needed ... good weekend !

Ben · 28 Oct 2016 14:08

The machine heads used on Vigier guitars are made by Schaller.

yuri1973 · 28 Oct 2016 14:24

yuri1973 wrote:

The machine heads used on Vigier guitars are made by Schaller.

Many thanks Ben,

funnily enough, I've browsed through Schaller's web page a few times trying to find that model (same form factor)... the closest I've seen is the "M6 mini" ... is it another model or that one?

I'm worried that I may purchase a set of "M6 mini locking" and they end up not being a drop-in replacement (different screw/center tuning post distance)

Cheers!

Ben · 28 Oct 2016 14:37

It is the M6 range made for Vigier (locking version pin type - without the screws) - are you wanting the locking version, if so I do not think it is 'drop-in' replacement as the screw holes will be in a slightly different position.

yuri1973 · 28 Oct 2016 14:48

well .... what I would like is to take out those in picture above (which I believe they're even still used on locking-nut models i.e. Excalibur Originals), and replace them with a locking model with screw, so I was hoping a "M6 mini locking" would do the trick.

Let me put the question in a different way: Are the non-locking tuners on Vigiers the "M6 mini" model? If they are, then "M6 mini locking" will do the job as it has the same form factor

I get that the locking model used now on most Vigiers are pin model, with oversize thumb-wheel. That's not good for me as the screw hole will be visible (I'm picky)

Ben · 28 Oct 2016 15:02

The model is M6-2000

I think Patrice is best to give a definitive answer for fit on this one...

1Patrice Vigier · 28 Oct 2016 16:06

Sorry to say but I do not know....

yuri1973 · 28 Oct 2016 16:17

mmmm .... you don't know which model* you put on your guitars?

* the non-locking ones

1Patrice Vigier · 28 Oct 2016 16:25

The non locking are Gotho SG360-07

yuri1973 · 28 Oct 2016 16:27

Brilliant ... Thanks !!! I'm a happy man now and I see the light !!!

I'll soon share a pic of my Vigiers (it's a big family growing)

1Patrice Vigier · 28 Oct 2016 17:41

yuri1973 · 08 Jan 2017 18:24

Changed the hardware on the Supra, locking tuners * (and other bits), in gold !

HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM VIGIER FAMILY :-)

1Patrice Vigier · 09 Jan 2017 08:41

Wooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Ben · 09 Jan 2017 09:53

Nice collection!! Happy New Year!!

yuri1973 · 10 Jan 2017 10:01

Happy New Year to you too !

Ben/Patrice ... I was wondering, as the pickguard on the Natural Supra is cracked and ugly on a few places, can I order a mirror-gold HSH pickguard to replace it?

Any part number/reference I can use to speed up the process?

How could I order it? (not sure if Letusa is still the distributor in Spain for your products).

Regards